Installing Polyscope 5 on Model CB5 (V5.6)

Technical Questions
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Hi,

I was just wondering if I could install Polyscope 5 to a Polyscope X robot which has a compute box version 5.6 on it.

I saw some people over in the forums saying that it could be done, but was looking for further confirmation as doing the wrong thing might wreck the software here.

Thanks!

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Hello @kaafi.shikder

at the moment running PolyScope 5 on a CB5.6 controller is not supported. But we are actively working on making this possible, with a target of Q1 next year.

There should be a public announcement soon.

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Hi Stefan,

Do you know if this is officially supported as of yet?

Sam

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Hi @sam.verity-hilton

the current estimate to have an official release for 5.26 being also compatible with CB5.5 and older ready by end of Q1/26.

/Stefan

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Perfect, thanks for the update!

Sam.

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Also waiting for that. As Polyscope X proves more and more to be unusable.

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Hello @properInproperizer

Thank you for your feedback!

What version are you working with and what areas do not work as expected for you?
We are happy to look into this!

/Stefan

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Hi @sko

Thanks for your willingness to look into it.

So, there is for instance, that we had to hack around in order to get our gripper working (which is according to Robotiq due to yet missing features on Polyscope X)

Automatically Scan for a Robotiq Gripper in Polyscope X

Then this:

PolyScope X: Calling a .urp program as a subprogram? - Technical Questions - Universal Robots Forum

Running a urpx program as subroutine should be a pretty standard requirement and nothing excotic.

Then, there is no possibilty to select and copy/cut multiple lines of a program.

Then the bugs:

No mouse pointer on Polyscope X - Technical Questions / Report a Bug - Universal Robots Forum

Support File on Polyscope X doesn’t include the programs on the Robot! - Technical Questions / Report a Bug - Universal Robots Forum

Also, we haven’t found a way yet to teach relative movements. Maybe you know that straight away, is there no possibilty (yet)? Or is it hidden in some other function than just move?

Thanks in advance.

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Sorry, I forgot the version

We are using 10.11.x (I don’t know the exakt version by heart). But I checked the release notes of the newer release and haven’t found one of my points adressed.

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Hello @properInproperizer

Thank you for your insights!

Here some feedback on your points:

  • Gripper Scan for Robotiq: With the 10.12 release we have added the Tool Config API, which will be further improved with upcoming 10.13 release. This should resolve the current limitations here.
  • Sub-programs: The introduction of global functions and modules aims to replace the use of subprograms like in PolyScope 5. Along the line they will be further improved to allow for a more flexible use of them. I case you need to switch programs, there is the option to use the RobotAPI to load different programs via a REST interface.
  • Selecting Multiple Lines of a program: I agree this is a missing feature we yet need to implement.
  • No Mouse: We are aware of this topic and it is being looked at.
  • No Program being part of Support Files: Let me get the status on thi. A current workaround may also be the RobotAPI allowing you to download the loaded program via a REST Inteface.
  • Relative Movement: An offset can be applied to waypoints under More settings. In combination with a variable waypoint, which holds the current robots pose this would behave like a relative movement.

Your feedback is super helpful for us!
Let me know your comments.

/Stefan

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Just an FYI, this has been pushed back due to part shortages on the 5.6 controller. They don’t want people buying them as standalone to make sure they have enough to sell with their new UR series robots. We bought a Polyscope X controller with the info that we could use it with polyscope 5 soon but now we’re stuck using Polyscope XXX

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Hello @dbarton

Thank you for sharing the update!

The CB5.6 control boxes allocation are prioritized for usage together with PolyScope X. The planned PolyScope 5.26 LTS Version will be able to run on the CB5.6 Control Box, but due to the current supply chain situation, PolyScope 5 will mostly be sold with CB 5.5 Control Boxes.

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Hi @sko

  • Alright, we got to know that for 10.12 there is also a new UR Cap Release for the HAND-E that should eliminate the need of the work around. We will test that soon!
  • For another project in the pipeline, we will test the Robot API, as there our SW on a desktop will be the master and just give little tasks to the Robot. Tasks that we teach in urpx programs. But for that application, we need to be able to teach relative movements. About relative movements, yes we know that there can be a relative movement programmed, but not teached as it was possible in Polyscope5. I basically need to calculate the tensor by my own… It is crucial that teaching of relative movements gets implemented on Polyscope X as well.
  • About the Support Files, so, your workaround allows just to download the currently loaded program? So in the end also over the Robot API we need to get each program separately? (but have the chance to automate it by developing a little PC apllication). Is it intended, that the download of the support file gets back the functionality (downloading all programs and even its auto backupped revisions) as in Polyscope5?
  • Thanks for the updates to the other points, its good to see you have them on your radar!