# Compatible HMI with no PLC **URL:** \ **Category:** 3rd party tools\ **Created:** [August 2, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047 "2022-08-02T14:52:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mwn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.universal-robots.com/mwn/32/6177_2.png) [@mwn](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/mwn)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/1 "2022-08-02T14:52:54Z")
Hello i am looking for an HMI panel that can be connected directly to the UR-robots without the need for a PLC or other master. Is there any HMI panel with this sort of compatibility? ---
**Author:** ![WattsUp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.universal-robots.com/wattsup/32/5732_2.png) [@WattsUp](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/WattsUp)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/2 "2022-08-03T12:29:57Z")
I have never done this, but most HMI do have ability to talk over Modbus TCP. so I would think it could be setup like that pretty easily. ---
**Author:** ![m.hammerton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@m.hammerton](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/m.hammerton)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/3 "2022-08-03T12:49:34Z")
I have Just setup a HMI Directly to UR5e using LabView Using RTDE to get Robot Status, Safety Status, All Digital and Configurable I/O, Reading and Writing to Registers ((Int and Boolean) (Remote Start Stop)) Using Dashboard for prog selection and Drives on etc. ---
**Author:** ![mwn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.universal-robots.com/mwn/32/6177_2.png) [@mwn](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/mwn)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/4 "2022-08-03T13:03:49Z")
what HMI panel did you use? ---
**Author:** ![m.hammerton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@m.hammerton](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/m.hammerton)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/5 "2022-08-03T13:05:55Z")
mwn, standard Windows 10 PC and touchscreen monitor. LabView can be a little pricey though. ---
**Author:** ![mwn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.universal-robots.com/mwn/32/6177_2.png) [@mwn](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/mwn)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/6 "2022-08-03T13:09:00Z")
Im looking for a standalone HMI panel, but i only have experience in setting up Siemens HMI’s always connected to a PLC. I’m looking to deliver a solution to a customer where an HMI panel is used for a couple of things. So i’m looking for a solution where i can connect an HMI panel and it still being cheaper than just buying a PLC and HMI and doing it that way. ---
**Author:** ![m.hammerton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@m.hammerton](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/m.hammerton)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/7 "2022-08-03T13:18:06Z")
mwn, It sounds to me like your minds already made up with a Siemens HMI. Just connect it to the Robot Via Modbus I’m sure Siemens do a HMI version with Modbus. ---
**Author:** ![mwn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.universal-robots.com/mwn/32/6177_2.png) [@mwn](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/mwn)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/8 "2022-08-03T13:20:06Z")
Is it possible for the HMI to get access to the bit register etc. without a PLC? I’m new in this field and have also only worked with Profinet ---
**Author:** ![m.hammerton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@m.hammerton](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/m.hammerton)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/9 "2022-08-03T13:24:30Z")
mwn I think you’d have to set the Robot as Server and the HMI as Client see [Modbus Server - 16377 | Universal Robots Support](https://www.universal-robots.com/articles/ur/interface-communication/modbus-server/) > **[ModBus%20server%20data.pdf](https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/ur-support-site/16377/ModBus%20server%20data.pdf)** > > 451.46 KB I’ve never set up a Modbus HMI But Robot to Robot over Modbus TCP works great I can’t see why it would be any different. ---
**Author:** ![mwn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.universal-robots.com/mwn/32/6177_2.png) [@mwn](https://forum.universal-robots.com/u/mwn)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.universal-robots.com/t/compatible-hmi-with-no-plc/23047/10 "2022-08-03T14:06:40Z")
I’ll look into this solution. Thank you for taking some time out of your day to help me m.hammerton.